EXPOSING THE VANITY OF PRAYER TO GOD THROUGH INVOKING THE SAINTS

Prayer would be less bad if people who got negative experiences from it were encouraged to give it up.  Religion in fact encourages you to keep going with it.

Trauma is associated with abuse but abuse can be subtle and crafty.

If a person who is important to you:

Dismisses your experience

Ignores how you feel or tells you that you do not feel it

Blames you for even some of their problems

Makes you too self-critical

Makes you feel you are not good enough

Makes you feel invisible and unheard

Seems to treat another person better than you, perhaps a stranger

Puts some activity such as work or prayer above you

Then damage may come along.

It is safe to say that if you are told God is important to you even if you cannot see it then at least some of these harms will take place.  The person does not need to be real.  It matters only if you think he is real or may be.

The harm done by thinking God does not understand you and is not guiding can be quite serious.

That is bad enough but some religions offer friends and guardians in addition to God.

If your mother is a saint and you pray to her you will not escape noticing that she is not doing the things you would expect.  Think about that.  Yet you are asked to make yourself think she is still by your side.  Your experience that she is nothing like herself is dismissed.

Catholics pray to saints. They say God uses the saints to help those who pray to them get close to him. If they really want to get close to God then they don't need the saints. They can go straight. The saints who pray for you are hypocritical for the essence of prayer is hypocrisy.  If you ask their prayers that is what you are asking them to be - hypocrites. If we thought they were merely praying, "You know best O God and your will be done!", we wouldn't bother invoking them. We wouldn't need to and it would be ridiculous to ask. Those who pray to saints are trying to get them to manipulate and fool God for them. Only demons will be interested in responding to such prayers! The prayers are really attempts to bend God's ear and a sign of mistrust.
 
SAINTS AND SINNERS

The Roman Church says that we always have some residue of sin in us no matter how holy we are.
 
“Lord, the end of another messed-up day. I let you down at every turn. I’ve lived for myself all through” (page 4, Friday Penance, John C Edwards SJ, Catholic Truth Society, London, 1985).
 
Even the greatest saint has sins (1 John 1:8-10). But to do good while sinning is making it clear to God that you will do good when you feel like it and not because it is right or because it is God’s will. That is totally evil as God is so wonderful so the good is not good but defiance disguised as good. To understand this is to understand the reason the Bible says that one sin defiles all the good you do (James 2:10; 3:10-12) and makes you a good actor. The result is spiritual blindness where doing your own will and not God's is made to look good and even pious. So the saints are really sinners who are whitewashed over by the Church. To honour them as saints is to honour their sins.
 
The Catholic Church prays to saints. If you really trust God and find comfort in him you will not be asking saints to pray to him for you. You will pray to God. The Church says that praying to the saints is really praying to God through them, it is giving them the prayers to give to him. If praying to the saints is really praying to God as the Church says then why don't Catholics simply pray to God? The reason must be that praying to saints is really satisfying our natural liking for having many human gods. Humankind did it for countless centuries so we haven't changed.
 
If praying to dead saints is fine, then why don't Catholics pray to the living? The reason is that the saints are thinly disguised gods and it is easier to believe the dead know all things for the living clearly do not. It is no reply to say that the saints have God's power to help and not their own power. In paganism, many gods had no power of their own but they were still gods.
 
The Bible teaches that Jesus intercedes for us before God (Hebrews 7:25). That blasphemously infers that God would ignore us and refuse to help us unless Jesus asked him. A perfect God will give help when its needed and will not need intercessors. Our asking is not important. God has to do x or its opposite anyway regardless of whether we ask or not. It is not that he is rude but it is just the way things have to be. He cannot keep waiting for our consent.
 
If God would bless you if Jesus never asked then clearly Jesus is not an intercessor for intercessor means a person who tries to influence a higher authority for you on your behalf and this authority has to make the decision if your request will be granted or not. To teach that Jesus or Mary or any saint can influence God is to deny that God is perfect. It is declaring them more powerful than he is. It is declaring them to be the real Gods.
 
The asking is about trying to feel you have some control when you do not. That is why prayer feels good but it is selfishness hidden as devotion to God.
 
If God won't help you until you ask or get a saint to ask, then you or the saint is better than God and God can be manipulated. The saint for example must be wiser than God.
 
Praying to saints is really turning to demons for it shows contempt for God and resorting to beings that are against him. They must be against him if they listen to your prayers and want them.
 
You can honour and respect the saints without praying to them.
 
Prayer when dissected is alarming and offensive and pays homage to fanaticism. Involving a saint adds insult to injury.



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